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MBP 15" Late 2011: Display glitch, blue lines, shut downs.

Hi,

I’ve tried to find someone with exactly the same issue but couldn’t, so here I am, first time raising a question here.

I have a MBP 15” Late 2011.

I’ve upgraded about two years ago the ram and the hard drive for 16GB Crucial RAM and 525GD SSD Crucial drive (MX300).

Since a few days my laptop seems to start glitching every time I’m using a lot of CPU (I’m a music producer and I use often some CPU-hungry softwares). Sometimes it gets back to normal, some other times the display seems to shut down and goes black, but the computer seems to still be running and I have to force shutdown it. After two days with this problem the laptop started doing it more and more until it couldn’t stay on without this problem occurring every 5 minutes.

About 6 months ago, I had the infamous AMD GPU failure. My first thought was that it was related to this issue again so I went back to the Repair Shop that changed the GPU. After keeping my laptop for way too long they told me it wasn’t GPU related and advised me to change the SSD drive (but they didn’t look really convinced of the problem this time).

Some other thing I noticed a few days ago is that I had the “replace battery” sign on. Remembering that today, I took out the battery and tried to power it on. Surprisingly it was working all well. I was working on it for 4 hours and it was still fine so I then decided to test it by loading loads of CPU-hungry softwares and sadly the glitch issue happened again (but the display didn’t go all black this time and it ended up by stabilising after some heavy glitches).

I think I mentioned everything I could think of, so my question are:

Would changing the SSD really be the solution? (it’s still under warranty).

Would changing the battery be any help? (it’s about 7 years old now…)

Would changing the hard drive cable any help? I’ve read about the cable not being compatible with this SSD drive, if so, is this drive not suitable for this laptop?

Let me know if you need more informations.

Thanks,

Gabriel

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Define glitching, graphical glitches? I've been seeing a lot of 2011 GPU failures recently, and I'm still not convinced it's a HDD/SSD issue rather than a GPU or overheating issue. If it's fully shhutting down, try this guide and report back with the results if you're able: How to determine Mac shutdown causes

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Yes I'm referring to graphical glitches.

I haven't experienced actual power shutdowns, just display shutdown sometimes (I could still hear the laptop running and see the keyboard lights).

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Hi Jonah,

@jonaharagon I did try this today but the code doesn't work. It says "command not found".

Today my laptop suffers shutdowns. Is there an other way for me to see the shutdowns causes.

To be more precise, the laptop shutdowns and tries to reboot, it stays on a white screen and the fans start to go crazy.

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I think you’re hitting a few different issues when combined given your usage is creating your problems.

First yes! You need to replace the HD SATA cable. The 2011 models cables are just not up to handling the higher data I/O your SSD is able to push. Here’s the needed cable MacBook Pro 15" Unibody (Mid 2012) Hard Drive Cable And yes! This is the 2012 model which is designed to support the full SATA III (6.0 Gb/s) data throughput your system is able to run at. In addition you want to apply a strip of electricians tape on the uppercase where the cable crosses over. Next, the mid-plain plastic clips need to be inspected (two black clips to supports the bottom cover. You’ll want to make sure the one nearest the optical drive is intact. I would strongly recommend you place some foam tape on the optical drive to the left and right where the cable folds down to the drive just to offer a bit more protection from the bottom cover pressing on the cable if you bang the bottom cover. And lastly, You don’t want to damage the cable when you fold it! You want nice arcs not sharp folds. Over bending damages the thin foil wires within the cable.

The next issue is your SSD. You need to upgrade to a faster and larger SSD. The MX300 while a good drive has a slow write and housekeeping process. It was a good drive when it came out but SSD have gotten a lot better in the last few years. Whats happening is your drive gets bogged down, which in turn effects virtual RAM and then cascades to your real RAM that your GPU is also fighting for access. I’m suspecting given what you are doing you have a lot of data churn and you likely have a very full drive. Overtime, your SSD need to do wear leveling moving lest used block to higher used blocks so when you have a drive that has less free space it has to work harder to do this and if you have lots of stuff being moved about the SSD tells the system it needs to wait. this then causes the CPU into a bit of a race condition as it can’t make the updates as fast as you are expecting the system to do.

This is the likely cause of the blue lines and the overheating the SSD & system is also dealing with that then causes your system to shut down.

Most of the time I recommend to have more than 1/4 of the drive unused as the OS and your apps need space for virtual RAM, caching & paging.

When you are using deep files like video or music editing and modifying them you really need more scratch space. Here I strongly recommend 1/3 free so you need at least a 1 TB drive, if you can swing it I would go for a 2 TB drive. These larger drives also have better performance as well!

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Hi Dan,

Thank you for this precise answer!

I'll start following all these steps then.

All of this results in a new question for you:

If i upgrade all of the things you advised, would it be a good idea to replace my optical drive with my MX300 SSD, to be used as a second internal drive?

I've been willing to change the optical drive for a second internal drive for a while but I wasn't too sure how to pick an appropriate replacement.

Thanks,

Gabriel

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Sorry to say your 2011 MacBook Pro has a glitch in the optical drives SATA port so you can only use a SATA II (3.0 Gb/s) drive. Here's a good reference OWC Data Doubler Check the Red note at the bottom. It makes no difference who's carrier you use as they all suffer the limits of the logic board circuitry.

Frankly, I would stick with the single drive just get a bigger drive.

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Ok thank you for this. I'll focus on fixing and upgrading the main SSD first.

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Hi Dan,

I actually had a look in System Report under SATA/SATA Express and it looks to me like it is SATA III :

"Intel 6 Series Chipset:

Vendor: Intel

Product: 6 Series Chipset

Link Speed: 6 Gigabit

Negotiated Link Speed: 6 Gigabit

Physical Interconnect: SATA

Description: AHCI Version 1.30 Supported"

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Yes & No! The chipset is able to run at SATA III but Apple messed up the logic board! Which is why you can use a SATA III drive in the optical drive bay.

Trust me! I've tried and other have as well a square peg in a round hole problem just won't work at the full data rate.

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