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iMac Intel 27" EMC 2309 (Late 2009, Core 2 Duo 3.06 or 3.33 GHz) ID iMac10,1, EMC 2374 (Late 2009, Core i5 2.66 GHz or Core i7 2.8 GHz) ID iMac11,1

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Loud noise from top of iMac 27" 2009, gets louder with brighter screen

This is regarding a iMac Intel 27" EMC 2374 (Late 2009, Core i7 2.8 GHz, 16gb Ram). I had the logic board changed by professionals about 4-5ya due to a malfunctioning processor.

The noise started appearing about a year ago, maybe during demanding tasks, but it would go away when the computer had time to rest a bit. Now it starts the moment the computer is turned on and shows no mercy.

Describing the phenomenon:

The sound is emanating from the top of the computer, slightly to the left (while facing the screen). From what i have read, this indicates that the PSU should be the culprit..

It can be described as a loud humming and hissing, like a classic fan but also not really…

It is loud enough to be unbearable when the screen is set to minimum brightness and it gets louder the brighter i set the screen. It starts of at maximum loudness when i turn the computer on and then backs down to the “brightness level” when everything is booted up.

It is not very static but does not clearly display a correlation between itself and cpu load.

Another strange sound appears, from the same spot, when the computer is shut down. As long as the power chord is plugged in there is a faint, cyclic, crackling sound. It grows slowly for about a second and then fades again as quickly, sort of a “kkrrrrrrrk” noise. After a couple of seconds of quiet it repeats. This goes on for at least 30 minutes after shutdown. It’s not a very loud thing but it can be heard clearly from a meter away. To me it sounds like a power transformer acting up. (My spontaneous thoughts go to capacitors/inductors having fun juggling charges??)

When the cycling crackling has gone i can hear a slightly worrying fizzing, crackling, humming, if i put my head close to the source. I know it’s super normal for transformers to make noise like that but from my experience they tend to be more high pitched and “clear”, whilst this is fairly grainy and irregular.

The computer runs fine, maybe a little sluggish during bootup but nothing unexpected from a 2009 machine.

I found this video of a guy with the same (if not very similar) issue who apparently fixed it by changing his PSU:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFc39ZIi...

But i also read people describing how their noises of the same nature returned soon after changing their PSU. So i’m suspecting there might be another underlying force at work here. And i would rather not buy a new one to have it bust after a few weeks. Or worse, ruin my machine while installing it ;)

I have installed Macs Fan Control and that shows no fans running at concerning speeds (3 displayed fans at slightly below 1k RPM at most), nor is any component specially hot (all displayed at under 60c)..

A huge thank you to anyone who read through this whole thing and I will love you if you can help me out with it!

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and oh yeah! I have tried using different outlets and turning of all other power in my apartment but there was no noticeable difference.

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The one thing that can make a mess here is bad power and/or ground! I would get a simple go-no go tester at the local hardware store like this one 3-Wire Receptacle Tester. It the outlet looks good you'll want to check the breaker panel ground connection. You should have a green or bare heavy wire which either ties to a clamp on your water pipe (metal) or to one or more ground rods. Make sure your connections are metal to metal with no corrosion build up.

Lastly, talk to your power company to have them plug in a recording power meter to see what's happening with the power.

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@danj since i have tried completely isolating the computer in its own power phase and comparing that with having it plugged in to a split with several lamps and other electronics. This gave absolutely no impact on the phenomenon. I also live in a newly renovated, state-owned, apartment in Stockholm and the electricity should really be of a high standard. What i have found working to some degree is unplugging the computer and holding the power button for a while. This apparently empties the PSU of charge. And then never letting it be plugged in while turned off, but rather have it go to sleep mode.

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What i have found working to some degree is emptying the PSU of charge by unplugging the computer and holding the power-button for a while (can’t remember where i read about the trick…). This eased up the sound somewhat. From then i never let the computer shut down without repeating the process, and never have it plugged in while turned off. Now i mostly let it go to sleep-mode and that actually seems to do the trick very well for me. After having it stand for a while asleep the sound was even quieter and only appeared during short intervals. I’ve even been able to do really CPU heavy tasks for hours without it making a single noice.

This is not necessarily a fix but it points towards a problem with having the computer plugged in while turned off, which is pretty easy to avoid. My guess would be that the idle current somehow messes with the transformer and that anyone with an old machine like this should probably think about letting the PSU rest between uses. Might be that coils or some other components are heating up, prompting charges to jump around? I’m no electrician…

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Open it up, remove the display and turn it on. It should be more obvious where the noise is emanating from. Then you can install your new power supply.

iMac Intel 27" EMC 2309 and 2374 Power Supply Replacement

Look for part #661-5972

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Thank you, i will do that if it becomes necessary!

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Rasmus - I think you have isolated the issue! Your follow up give a good clue!

Your power supply and logic board have noise filters which dampen down EMI. So your little test clearing the residual charge within the logic board (not power supply) points to the logic board that has an aging tantalum capacitor.

When you leave your system on in sleep mode the cap is working away so over time it gets tired so when you are using your system you encounter the noise issue. Now as you are shutting down and disconnecting the system the cap is not holding a charge so it its at rest. If you left the system plugged in then the charge would be present and would stay as the power supply is not really fully off! What we call a vampire draw is still present. This is where there is a trickle of power still going into the logic board to hold the settings and enable the soft power switch (vs a mechanical) to work.

Sadly, there is nothing you can do to fix this your self as your logic board has quite a few caps! One would need to test each one to find the one that has started failing.

So finding someone with the skills to fix your logic board or replacing it are the only options. Given the age of your system I’m not sure if its worth the effort.

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