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Repair guides and disassembly information for the MacBook Pro 16'' released in November of 2019. Model A2141, EMC 3347.

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Repasting - do I dare it?

I am very disappointed with the general high temperatures and the thermal throttling when gaming (World of Warcraft in MacOS). It seems to be common knowledge, that repasting a Macbook, will result in a major decrase in both idle temperatures and during load.

But, I don’t know if I dare do it. It is an expensive piece of hardware, and the fear of breaking something lurks in back of my mind.

Does anyone have any on hand experience with this - and can share some experience with it? I am well versed in hardware, and I have a steady hand - so I do think that I would be able to do it with a youtube video guiding me through.

Which tools would be recommended to order from iFixit to be able to complete this procedure the safest way possible?

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A new system shouldn't need fresh paste! While I'll agree Apple is not using the best paste its good enough! The real issue is the systems cooling is not large enough for these hot Intel chips. To add to it your using Windows which doesn't interface with the Mac systems thermal sensors and SMC services very well.

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I literally write that I'm playing in MacOS.

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@davidbruun - Sorry I'm not a serious gamer, I only played WoW on a Windows system years ago. Maybe you need to poke around the gaming blogs to see what they say running the macOS version.

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You will void your warranty doing this. Better to take it back to Apple and get a record of your problem. Is it throttling down when hot?

UPDATE

Here’s a discussion of the issue on this machine and possible solutions:

https://www.reddit.com/r/bootcamp/commen...

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Installing a good thermal monitoring app like TG Pro is a good start.

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I have several monitoring programs. My problem is, that it is throttling and staying down even though temperatures are "fine". Here is a screenshot of Intel Power Gadget. https://imgur.com/a/h3YN4Ok

Low power usage, normal temperature, low core utilization.

I've also tried turning off Turbo Boost, in order for the power/temperature to not spike up as much. I also run fans on max speeds at all times. Without Turbo Boost, core max is 2,3 - and there are plenty of temperature "space" for it to be 2,3 at all times. But when it goes down to 1,6 etc, it just stays there when I'm in World of Warcraft - no matter the temps. If I exit WoW, it goes back to normal max 2,3.

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Thank you for your update, @mayer - but I'm still not gaming in Bootcamp. And I also do basic stuff like keeping fans on max. My question here was more to the complexity of repasting for permanent lower temperatures, rather than trying to "fix" the MacOS throttling.

I can understand throttling at 90+ degrees, but I never get up there - I am permanently at 70-75 while under full load (because I have disabled turbo boost). I don't think it should be throttling at that temperature.

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This should come in handy but if you don’t mind me asking, what are you gaming on a MacBook? Linus Tech Tips - We FIXED Apple’s New MacBook Pro

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Linus & Alex fun with liquid metal makes sense with desktops it really is just not a good idea on a laptop - Any!

Apples failure here is not really there's, it's Intel's! This CPU chip just runs too hot for the cooling solution Apple offered in this system when you are running heavy process or graphical loads. Repasting the CPU and GPU really won't fix this. You need to focus on the exhausting of the heat making sure the fins are clear of debris as well as the vents are not blocked and pump up the fans more aggressively.

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I would not repaste it with liquid metal, as I've read it would eat up the surface of the cpu over time. I would just repaste it with very good normal paste.

The game I'm running, as in the post, is World of Warcraft - a game that requires CPU power. I am running it on fairly low settings, in able to sustain 100 fps. But after like 10 minutes of play time, my CPU throttles to unacceptable levels and stays there. Here is an Intel Power Gadget screenshot of it in action. https://imgur.com/a/h3YN4Ok

I've also tried turning off Turbo Boost, in order for the power/temperature to not spike up as much. I also run fans on max speeds at all times.

Without Turbo Boost, core max is 2,3 - and there are plenty of temperature "space" for it to be 2,3 at all times. But when it goes down to 1,6 etc, it just stays there when I'm in World of Warcraft - no matter the temps. If I exit WoW, it goes back to normal max 2,3.

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You might be encountering throttling from current limiting due to the GPU also working hard, or potentially heat spill from the GPU causing the Heatsink to saturate.

There's such small thermal margins on a thin laptop like this that it's likely coming from other components than the CPU that you're not directly getting Temp measurements from.

To me, this seems particularly likely considering you have Turbo off.

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